Debate.com: Final debate.

From the Webmaster here...

Hi Brandon,

Please keep in mind that the "identity confirmation" is only used to prevent users from creating multiple accounts and thus cheating the other members of the site and the site itself. A user can still debate without confirming their identity, they just cannot vote. Debate.com does not use your cell phone number to send spam, we don't sell it, we don't send you anything but a confirmation code. If e-mail verification worked perfectly we would have stuck with that, but you likely saw what it did on Version 2.0. Users were creating upwards of 10-20 accounts in some cases.

My response...

I'm supposed to trust you? Why? You obviously don't trust me. How about you give me your cell number. I promise I won't sell it. It's against my policy. Is that reassuring? Of course not. Everyone has their price. Once your database gets large enough someone will make an offer on it, or better yet perhaps someone will steal it. There are countless reasons not to do what you do, and only a handful to do it.

If you knew they were creating false accounts then why not delete them? Whatever mechanism you used to spot them could be used to prevent them from registering.

Forums have been dealing with false identities for years. And you'd be able to avail yourself of their creativity if you'd take your page non-profit open source.

Some of the countless available solutions are as follows. Rating systems. Only users with so many posts are allowed to vote. Or here's another, maybe a user has to be rated by so many other users before they can vote, or maybe only one ID per IP. Or an artful combination. Or two voting sections, one for anonymous, one for "verified", and let the viewer decide which is more "accurate." Or something completely different.

The positions expressed in my debate stand. You say I can debate but I can't vote, how aburd(snicker).

Why bother talking when I don't have a say?

P.S. As at least one other has noted. It's no surprise that I'm "losing" my debate. Those who agree with me would not have registered in the first place, and those who can vote clearly think the invasion is tolerable. It's a miracle I got a vote at all. Each one of my votes represent a disgruntled user. Someone who didn't appreciate being asked to empty their pockets into a tray.

Self Defence: MiaDreamR

Wow, still having to write these things. I must say I'm flattered. If what is said about me in this post and others is true in the extent that I somehow have a pathological craving for attention, which I am neither conforming nor disputing given that it is not my place to offer objective valuations of my own subjective character, then I must say I've certainly gotten it.

I think I get hate reviews more frequently now then I did when I was still posting.

But hey responding to them is a blast, so here goes.

This one came from yet another Company girl who thinks individuality and her value as a sentient comes from the degree to which men wish to copulate with her, IE how “pretty” she is. I've said most of this before and by now I really don't care if you're saved from your genes or die a slave to them, so I'm going to assume you understand the bulk of what I'm saying because you've read the rest of my work and understood it as well, or you don't because you can't and you're irredeemable.

I just read your review of my page. Thanks for your opinion. Albeit, a bad one- You're entitled to it. Since you're so hot on the subject (Or maybe you just get off on hearing yourself speak) That wasn't a glamour shot- I'm pretty. And I have the right to be pretty and post my picture if I so choose- I'm not half naked, I'm not posed in a sexual manner- in fact, it's barely a head shot. Just a picture of my face. If you think that is a glamour shot, well thank you- But that "glamour shot" is not license for me to be harassed by horny creepy men and since most of those men don't respond to kind subtle requests, I needed something more blunt and assertive. And it definitely works. Even when self righteous, pompous mouth pieces think otherwise. From the looks of it, you're the one begging on bended knee for attention. And I have no problem with that- whatever gets your through the day- just keep it away from me.

That's the full text of a review pasted here in full so that when/if she changes it my responses won't look absurd, which happens all the time on stumbleupon, one of the myriad reasons I stopped creating content for them.

I'm going to respond in section, they will just be copy pasted from the main review above, you're not seeing double.

That wasn't a glamour shot- I'm pretty.

"Pretty" has come to mean sexually appealing. Do you mean pretty like a waterfall? Pretty like a snowflake? Or pretty like a fashion model. Beyond that, who's this "I'm" you're speaking of? I don't even see you in the picture. I see the ratio of distances between your eyes, nose, chin etc, I see the choices of makeup purchase and application, (which I'll get to in a minute), I see styled hair who's structure you neither designed nor naturally acquired

And I have the right to be pretty and post my picture if I so choose-

And I have the right to move to Iran and take up honor killing as a hobby. Does government tolerance for a thing make it morally correct? your rights end where other's begin and you're contributing to a system that destroys so many lives that its crippled the whole world. Before you met me your ignorance of this behavior was you only ethical fallback, but now that you've been exposed to my position and refuse to even explore it or debate it, you've surrendered that protection. Now you're complicit. In keeping with Godwin's law, I'll mention Nazis. You've gone from ignorant German citizen to Luftwaffe, once you understand and help anyway, you'll be SS. The fact that you think this behavior is your birthright is telling. I'll grant that it is in a way, in the same way it's a cancer cell's birthright to slaughter a pancreas, But that doesn't make it all ok.

I'm not half naked, I'm not posed in a sexual manner- in fact, it's barely a head shot.

Of course you're not half naked, you'll make whoever wants to see that pay nosebleed prices in opportunity costs through verbal contract, and cold hard cash through gifts. The irony is you're doing this on behalf of someone else and you're too dim to realize it even when its presented to you, but hey you're "pretty" so its not like having a brain really matters for you now does it. Not saying you don't have one, but like the fuzzy headed guy said, “you've been given a large brain by mistake".

Just a picture of my face.

Your face? What makes you think its yours? Again the genetics? Ok sure in that way its somewhat unique to you, but out of 6 billion people we have to be talking about an extreme degree of qualifiers. I mean when you pick up a snowflake do you really think of each of them as priceless and unique or do you see snow?

Your eyes naturally that dark? Or did you apply coloring to make them look larger. Your lips naturally that color and do you always drool enough to keep them slippery and wet or again is that an application of some sort? How about blush? Foundation? Hair products from shampoo to conditioner to spray and gel? How about the teeth?

If its your face and yours alone how come it looks like what I see staring at me from every television commercial and fashion magazine? How come its that exact face I see telling me to buy everything from Friday's over priced burgers to life insurance? How come its that face I see on every movie and television love interest extolling one social virtue or another and demanding that I as a man I jump through some absurd hoop to win the right to please you sexually, since if I get that far and only enjoy myself I've still failed?

You're a product honey, and you've rolled off an assembly line as sure as a Toyota. That's not your face. You bought it from a thousand companies and you hung it on your flesh like a sneetche's star.

You seem to claim that this choice is completely non sexual, and that my implication that you're basically whoring yourself (which I have no problem with, BTW, prostitutes and sluts are a greater threat to the Company than I ever could be, in my mind your kind is beneath a whore since a whore to me is a valid and honest profession) is completely unfounded. Here's why.

Again let us examine something you may have been previously ignorant of.

Do you know why each of these things about your face is considered "pretty"? Lets start from the top and work our way down.

Hair. Your hair is treated to look a certain way because it indicates that it will be pleasing to the touch, as benign as that sounds, in the context of the rest of it it little more than a "love handle".

Forehead: No acne there, no shine of sweat, because since “girls” have to be plastic they can't be sweaty, sweaty isn't sexy unless its on a beach or somehow indicative of strenuous sex, or something contributing to sex, like say dancing/stripping, or working out. Along with the rest of the skin exposed in the photo other than your lips and eyes, its been masked completely with foundation to hide the fact that it's not smooth and perfect like a child's. And we have the first taste of why the teen pregnancy rate in America is staggering and why we have a permanent pedophile witch hunt in this country.

Eyebrows. Plucked and trimmed and sculpted, God forbid we're reminded that you, being a human adult have hair. Sexy little girls don't have hair unless its soft and silky smooth, or decoratively petite, demure demure even, pretty, small, controlled. And they have to be dark, lest they escape notice, and everything about a girl has to be noticeable if she's going to be "pretty".

Eyes. You know why you apply darkness to your eyes? Because it makes the eyes themselves which are reflective appear larger in relation to the rest of your head. You know what else has abnormally large eyes? A baby, or a child, or a kitten.

Cheeks. Blushed ever so subtly, to indicate maybe a hint of embarrassment, because you're perhaps thinking about sex, like a blushing bride, and being that you're a good (read submissive) virtuous (read sexually inexperienced, naive, trainable) girl. Always "girl", never "woman", you're only ever a woman when someone is telling you how strong and independent and uncontrollable you are, usually so they can control you.

Nose. Also anti-shine treated, to minimize its visual impact, because once again, since the nose and the ears grow throughout life, a small nose can mean a young person. You're supposed to have a little button nose just like a doll, a pliable unfeeling doll, that won't object too much. A doll that can be purchased and loved in private.

Lips. Ahh the lips, the most blatant part of the product lie that is "your" face. Glistening with gloss, slightly apart. Need I really describe the connotation of slick, pink, wet, slightly open, lips?

Are we seeing a pattern here? Now being that I'm basically discussing profitable pedophilia, I'm sure you'll start calling me a pedophile and thats fine, its nothing haven't heard before. But realize that I neither made up the following picture, or created the market forces, that are ultimately human forces, that made it possible.

Here's what I see, when I look at your picture and the billions like it. From a time when society was slightly more honest with itself about what it was and what it wanted.



But hey I'm just crazy right? And don't forget of low rank. Yea yea, I'm a sex crazed pedophile who lives in his mother's basement shunning all human contact, obviously a failure for having no beer in the house, spending his day divided up equally among hentai, hate speech, and video games, totally ignorant of the real world, stupid and pathetic in every way, a fat pimply virgin geek loser who is just jealous that he can't fuck someone like you and is lashing out. Right? I mean thats just about your position isn't it?

You wish honey, you wish. Enjoy your slave's existence. I suppose I wouldn't mind being a loved pet, a treasured possession of a superior being, or hell, maybe closer to a tick, or a intestinal worm. But I'm just too fond of my dignity to proceed.

Just know this. I look around and I know I earned everything I have, not in some Horatio Alger work way, but in that I understand it, and deserve it. I sleep like a baby knowing for a fact the world is a better place for me being in it. And so long as I am in it and do what I do it keeps being ever so slightly better. I earn my oxygen in happiness. I don't walk down the street and cause suffering and jealousy and self loathing, and then have the Gaul to claim that not only is there nothing wrong with profiting from this wake of horror, it's my right and I should be proud of it.

You, and all your kind, are doomed. You have two choices. Adapt or evolutionary oblivion. Human, or Eloi, you decide. Lucky for your kind those of my intelligence are typically gifted with compassion as well. We'll continue to take care f you long after your sexual value has become a distant memory in the face of other more stimulating pursuits.

Ignorance is no longer an excuse.

P.S. Reply if you wish, or not. Sorry for putting you on ignore on SU, I hate doing that, since I think it hides your review of me, but I'm done wasting time on crating content that only one person sees.

Self Defense: playermatt

Sometimes I feel like I could agree with Innomen, and then he goes batshit crazy the next sentence. It's like, "That makes sense... yes, good point... Ha, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Innomen! Wait. Wait. What the fuck? What the FUCK?" And, sadly, that's only about halfway through the wall of text.

Let me write a (comparatively!) concise version of every essay every written by Innomen, so that you never have to suffer through dedicating two hours of your life to his writings:

I am Innomen, the most original thinker in today's world. My alter-ego is a talking vagina, but forget about that -- I have no issues with women, and I'm definitely not a misogynist. In fact, I envy women! I wish I were a woman. If I were a women, I could have so much power over men, because, as everyone knows, women choose the man; the man never chooses the woman. Never! And I could always be the center of attention, everywhere I go! If only I were a woman... it's so hard being a heterosexual, white male in this matriarchal society. If only I were a woman, I could choose when and with whom to have sex, and I'd never be turned down, because, as we all know, no man has ever turned down a woman for sex. Ever. And I could sleep around all I wanted, with no repercussions at all, because women who sleep around are never vilified in our matriarchal society. If only I were a girl... (sigh) Girls don't know what it's like to be a man, and how hard it constantly is. In fact, did I ever mention that I got beat up in high school? I must be the only person in all of the world who attracted bullies, and, even though it's been over ten years, I still carry those wounds. Let me tell you about each and every bully who ever hurt me, because, let's face it, I'm the important one here. You're here just to be educated or be deprogrammed of your slave-think. I'm here to help you evolve into OH GOD I JUST CAN'T GO ON. I'M STARTING TO GET INSIDE INNOMEN'S HEAD, AND IT'S SCARING ME. AND YET, I CAN'T STOP BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY UNDER 5000 WORDS. THE AGONY, THE SELF-HATRED, THE FEAR... HELP ME.

This guy is without a doubt my favorite hater for one simple reason. He's me when I was 15. Almost exactly. Its like the time machine paradox for me. I was guilty of every flaw here exposed. And so, what will likely be my final self defense post from stumble upon, given that I'm done producing content for them, barring more blasts from the past, I'm pleased to present my counter argument to this hateful and incorrect review.

Edit: That day I received 3 new reviews of hate, so his was obviously not the last.

First of all, I've been writing my whole life. And a good huge chunk of that body of work is to be found online. He says he dedicated two hours of his life to my “writings” and then complains about the “wall of text”. I'm thinking he had already decided how he felt before he even began reading, if he began reading at all.

I don't blame him really, its a daunting and unpleasant read, because of the daunting and unpleasant subject. But since I'm writing about the foundation of human society, those two traits, if found in relation to this subject at all, should warrant further reading.

Of course, if you're going to make up my position for me, as this young man has down so bluntly, I suppose reading the work isn't needed.

I'm tired of using the word and indeed the concept of strawman, but the repetition is hardly under my control. So long as people chose to argue with their own word rather than mine, I'll continue to point out this fact.

However, if taken as a list of implied arguments, instead as a sarcastic rant, why actually find a critically valuable list of counterpoint to my positions.
So what I'm going to do here is extract those implication to the best of my ability and answer those instead.

Deep down I think if I had met myself when I was 15, I'd have hated the older version, but I would have been fascinated none the less. In order to placate that satisfaction and allow my younger self to save face, I'll respond.

I apologize if I miss the mark with my extracted implications, but thats the price you pay for communicating via sarcasm. Next time figure out what you really mean and say that instead.

So lets get started.

“ My alter-ego is a talking vagina, but forget about that”

The implication being that I'm so obsessed and gender confused that I subcionsioly make my face genitalia.

Well, I will admit that gender roles do occupy a significant portion of my thoughts, but only on a systemic level beyond my personal animal needs. I'm quite comfortable with my body, ,gender and sexuality. I could go on.

“I have no issues with women, and I'm definitely not a misogynist.”

since the entire post is sarcastic, treating phrases as opposites will be common. This is the first such case.

If you seriously believe I hate women then you could not have progressed very far into my “writings”

read the article with woman hating in the title on my blogspot for a complete refutation of the claim that I hate women.

You then go on to imply again that I'm gender confused and wish to be a woman. And that I feel our society is a matriarchy.

Well, again, no, I'm quite comfy having boy parts, and no I don't consider our society a matriarchy My position is that if it were an open matriarchy things would be quite a bit improved. You like many have this lovely mental infection which causes you to make logical leaps it completely wrong directions. In this case the leap from the claim that mating is the most important aspect of social development and that women are the most powerful figure in mate selection and thus mating, to saying that society is ruled by women.

Society is an abstraction given birth to by the mating process, which is controlled by women this does not mean however that society itself is run by women. Far from it, like an abused mother with a gargantuan and aggressive teen, society is run by abusive ignorant greedy men with the fore site of a mayfly, and the morals of a pit viper.

Sure the mother shares a degree of responsibility, if such a thing even exists in the face of various facts about reality, but thats not top say that all social ills can be laid at the feet of women, especially considering that the choices women make in a cold feed back cycle are often controlled by that very society.

“I could choose when and with whom to have sex, and I'd never be turned down, because, as we all know, no man has ever turned down a woman for sex.”

so you think I'm oblivious to the fact that in certain circumstances the male becomes the chooser on a superficial level. Of course males get to choose at times, but only between women who have chosen them. Or women who choose them after being made aware of the fact that they exist as a choice.

This is not the same as claiming that women have never been turned down for sex, far from it, but of course you know all that, you're trolling. You're implying something here that even you don't believe in an effort to annoy me.

Fail. You might have noticed I like written debate, this whole thing is fun for me, I'm on my lunch hour, you're part of my hobby. :)

“And I could sleep around all I wanted, with no repercussions at all, because women who sleep around are never vilified in our matriarchal society.”

no, my position is that women have the authority on a personal level to begin to corrode monogamy, if you had read my work you'd know that I consider myself a champion of equal rights, not just men's rights. The slut player double standard is one of the many things I'd like to see annihilated. I'm well aware of the consequences a woman faces if she frees herself sexually, and wishing to remove those consequences would seem to also serve as an argument against the claim that I'm a women hating gender confused bigot :)

“In fact, did I ever mention that I got beat up in high school? I must be the only person in all of the world who attracted bullies”

First of all there is the implication that I'm supposed to not discuss what happened to me. Second of all is the implication that I can only take issue with a social problem if its a part of my day to day life. Third is the implication that I'm obsessed with my past experience simply because I make mention of it in perfectly relevant contexts, fourth is the implication that for a problem to have merit it must be unique.

Well, one, I'm not ashamed of my life or any of my reactions, my parents taught me from a very early age to not make decisions I would later regret and to grasp the concept that while a decision may have appeared correct t the time it may still be wrong, and that the perfect decision is an illusion. So I'm pretty well without regret.

Two, I use my experiences at the mercy of alpha idiots merely to highlight the duration of the problem and the duration of my thinking about the problem. There is an assumption that in order to know anything you must be 50 and have a degree in it that constantly needs attack. Most of my mention of my past is with an eye towards that sort of explanatory purpose.

Third, I'm well over my experiences on a personal psychological level beyond their impact on the formation of who I am today. In truth I handled what they did pretty well, I never even had nightmares, but I did think a lot about why I was treated as I was, it was a puzzle, and I've always liked puzzles.

And finally, my past is relevant in that I know it continues to happen all over the west. Perhaps everywhere. Anywhere children group, the adults in authority will encourage the males to fight amongst themselves with varying degrees of openness, and encourage the females to choose the strongest among them to desire and, choose the equal among them to actually pair with.

Did it occur to you that I simply care about the experiences of children? If not is that deficiency of imagination honestly my fault?

As a side note, if you can name two of my bullies I'll give you 10$ via PayPal.

“I'm the important one here. You're here just to be educated or be deprogrammed of your slave-think.”

this one is particularly amusing, am I supposed to take a sycophantic tone towards a faceless anonymous reader simply because statistically speaking at least one of them is going to be my superior intellectually or in any other way?

It's my writing on my blog, all about my opinion, and you're attacking my self important perspective? Thats like accusing a marathon running of being in too much of a hurry and overly competitive Have some awareness of the setting man. Do you think I just walk around and lecture people? Opening conversations with “did you know you're a moron?” everything has a time and a place, and this is exactly the time and place for my writing.

I will not speak in eprime simply because you've given up on context and perspective. Besides, the instant I did you'd simply accuse me of being simple minded.

I assume that readers are interested in my opinion when they read my blog. Color me crazy :P

“ I'm here to help you evolve into OH GOD I JUST CAN'T GO ON. I'M STARTING TO GET INSIDE INNOMEN'S HEAD, AND IT'S SCARING ME”

Thats quite interesting because where you stopped is pretty much where the singularity occurs heheh.

I'd stop too, lol.

You actually are in my head to a degree, you just have some slight imperfections in vision. I think you find me threatening because of our similarity. In some ways my mere existence threatens your identity. And I feel your pain. Often time I'll hate in others what I see in myself. But I'm doing better.

Thanks for the banter man, that was a great lunch hour :)

Self Defense: imorgen

Ah, here we go again (he can't mind me linking like that surely, since he spams his own blogs at every opportunity).

It's telling that there are apparently two camps, "those who have asked "Are you really leaving?" and followed it up with kind words", and then "everyone else" aka "you people" (horrible and/or ignorant). The "private" bit does also seem a tad ironic in light of his contacting people, often with huge assumptions, then posting their private responses all in relation to himself.

Oh neat, new word.

I get the point, and I'm sure to some I meet the definition, but allow me to pose a hypothetical relating to the ethic of keeping your mouth shut while exiting.

Lets start with the extremely obvious. I see a bomb hidden under the counter at a crowded bank, the counter reads 5 minutes, I exit silently, the bank explodes killing five. Ethical?

Of course not. But this is hardly a crowded bank and its not like lives are directly on the line. I produce that example simply to illustrate the point that in some situations it is indeed appropriate, perhaps even morally urgent to announce one's exit and reason for said exit, and in others its not.

The question then becomes which is the case here?

My exit of the stumble upon community with regard to providing content and thus profit for them, is based on what I consider to be a destructive attitude towards civil liberty and freedom of expression generally, like the employer who fires everyone who refuses a drug test. Sure its legal, but are there not larger freedom related implications? Think of it like a boycott.

I follow the logic of an employer being able to do as it please on its own private property, and while I disagree with an abstract noun being given the same rights as me, I do understand the position. But the matter becomes ethically complicated when you note that all employers can engage in this behaviors and most people must be employed. Suddenly Corporate law becomes defacto criminal law and if you do not conform you pay your fine for violation of said law in opportunity costs.

My point is that my exit was not merely a gambit for attention to myself, but attention to a series of social problems of which SU policy and the attitude of its most popular posters is merely a symptom.

Innomen as a stumbler identity has in a fundamental way, died. I'll admit that he could rise again, depending only on my mood, but if that's not the case, does he not deserve last words?

There is no deceit here. When I wrote that post I felt that way, and I still do. As I explain in the post I still use the inbox and the send/receive url function. I am automatically notified when I get a new review, as any experienced stumbler knows.

I like blogspot better for the purposes of self expression. It has a clean and easy to use interface, and that's because of course it is made for what I'm doing with it.

It's telling that there are apparently two camps, "those who have asked "Are you really leaving?" and followed it up with kind words", and then "everyone else" aka "you people" (horrible and/or ignorant).

Not at all, and you know better.

The "private" bit does also seem a tad ironic in light of his contacting people, often with huge assumptions, then posting their private responses all in relation to himself.

I respect the respectful. I post what I feel is ethical and relevant. This can take the form of me not caring about what someone thinks, and me caring deeply about what someone thinks.

If a person talks to me and I talk back I own my responses. I have permission to post everything I've ever posted of someone else, even though I don't see any ethical need to acquire said permission. If someone doesn't want me to post their words and my responses, I create a hypothetical version of the conversation with no identifying bits.

You seem reaching, if you read more of my work I'm sure you'll find something easier to tear down if you're looking to troll for whatever reason.

Self Defense: Pigasus

In which our hero Innomen laments the world's failure to grasp the genius of his self indulgent ramblings. He's leaving... well sort of... NO HE'S REALLY LEAVING... he's kind of leaving. Dude, stop saying goodbye and just go. Even money this guy is back posting in 30 days or less.

This kind of obvious misrepresentation coming from people who clearly haven't even read my work is a big part of why posting on SU has become as futile as looking for depth on myspace.

If I choose to return to SU I assure you, your opinion of said action will be even more irrelevant. I'd be glad if something changed my opinion of the community's quality as a whole. Enduring your "I told you so" would be worth a welcome trade.

I also adore how I'm given shit for being sad at people not understanding and thus adopting my position given that in my opinion the only thing I would gain if people did, would be the satisfaction of helping others.

Put that in perspective. I'm hated for being sad at the fact that people are rejecting a way to maximize both the quality and quantity of life.

That fact is why no hater will ever get under my skin.

At most they could conclusively prove me wrong about something at which point I would gladly adapt, since my goal here despite popular misconception is not to defend what I am, but to grow. And that means change.

Having said that, if I appear rigid and unthinking to you, please consider that while I do indeed want to change, maybe I just don't want to change into what you would like.

The one thing all my haters have in common is the in ability to seriously consider the possibility of me being correct.

They are so sure of that not being the case, it is so obvious to them, that they never make any real effort to prove it. Not a single point.

And after two solid years of writing at least three hours a day, its not for a lack of claims.

The reason for that is simply not even contemplated by my haters. I can say that without equivocation because those former haters who had done so, and engaged me in rational debate, typically taught me something while learning something and made a friend.

But I'm sure saying that I like making friends rather than something manly and violent about enemies makes me a loser or something.

*shrugs*

Self Defense: annex10

Pretty constructs do not make you a hero. Your ability to wax philosophic and twist logic into a ladder where only you can be on top makes everything you say of little value, impact, or importance.

Agreed completely.

Good thing I've never claimed the first or engaged in the second.

Self Defense: Company Girl 1

This is an exchange I had with yet another Company Girl on stumble upon. This post is special in that it is the shortest amount of time it took to go from total stranger to name calling to blocked.

I find that the people who I'm wrong about stand up and debate it and we usually end up being friends, but if I'm dead on, I get a whining pouting vitriolic reaction typified by the one below.

This one covers all the bases. She tried to attack virtually everything that a stranger can attack.

I find it adorable and quite telling.

(Name hidden to prevent whining.)

1:39pm How truly bizarre. I just read your 'review' and it doesn't actually make any sense. Its as though you've gone off on some weird rant that has everything to do with you and absolutely nothing to do with me or anything I've posted. Being nothing but gratuitously abusive isn't really expressing an opinion... is it ? I know abuse is your online 'act' but really .. this is intellectually bankrupt and isn't worthy even of you ... :))

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Innomen

1:53pm Yes yes bury your head in the sand, pretend I didn't even make an argument, attack the messenger.

How original.

I suppose I shouldn't expect much more from a girl who lifted her avatar right out of cosmo.
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(Name hidden to prevent whining.)

1:58pm I've heard from quite a few people that you have this 'problem' with girls online ... but really SU isnt supposed to be psycho-therapy. What you wrote .. referencing the 'sexuality' element of my days post .. made absolutely no sense at all. You were talking about something entirely different than what I wrote about. The review was about *you* .. not about me. I'll debate my liberal credentials with most people, but they have to at least make sense. Incidentally .. you included a couple of links in your review .. one to your own blog .. thats really not acceptable and its an abuse of the review system. You should remove them ..:)
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Innomen

2:13pm *rolls eyes* So when ad hom didn't work now its the argument from authority. So fact is a matter of vote? Can we all get together and vote on cancer being unreal then?

"You were talking about something entirely different than what I wrote about."

No actually I wasn't that's the point, drone. Of course I don't expect you to understand or even be open to the fact that there is a possibility that you don't understand.

"Thats really not acceptable and its an abuse of the review system."

Yea I'm sure you find my work unacceptable considering that it basically show that your whole worldview is a sham.

I'm done wasting my time on you, if you wish to debate publicly I'm all for it. You're beyond help, far too drunk on attention to be of any intellectual value.

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(Name hidden to prevent whining.)

2:21pm *laughing* .. your 'work' ? Well thats the best laugh I've had today...:)) Anyway ... thats not the point . The fact is that including external links to your own sites under the guise of reviewing is an abuse of the review system and I routinely block and remove the reviews of the spammers who do it. Its up to you but I don't provide a platform on my site for abusive rants or spamming for external sites. Anyway .. try to relax .. honestly being the playground bully is *not* going to make any girl online take ytou seriuously or take any notice of you .. believe me .. just some friendly advice ..:))

And finally, the reason I've posted it is because she blocked me, thus trying to deny me of my right to response. Whiny little girls are SO fond of this. The internet equivalent of a crank call.

So here it is. My response:

Am I supposed to be concerned that you think badly of my work? You have the intellectual value of a tick in my estimation. Just because you typed that you were laughing am I supposed to start crying now? I love how some people never leave grade school.

Including external links is my right, especially if the whole of the link's content is my material. It's called citation. I've established my opinion on the subject before and you're not worth the duplication of effort, hence the link. Calling me a spammer is slander (libel?), I don't make a dime from any of my online work. If you want to imply a breech of protocol you should look to yourself first.

And finally what makes you think I'm at all concerned what any "girl" thinks of me?

That type of assumption is exactly the kind of sexism I'm trying to kill.

News flash: Men can be motivated by things other than sex.

Thanks for the material sugar, its been a real gas :)