Self Defense: Helsinkip

Helsinkip: They are advocating sex with children, you stupid wanker - but you admire their openness. Well good for you. Prick. News flash, legally speaking children are property and on-citizens. Want to show me the statute that says "children are property" - and what the FUCK does "on-citizens" mean, exactly? .

First of all they are advocating the right to have sex with children, which is significantly different. What you claim is like saying pro choice people encourage abortion. But I wouldn't be too shocked if drivel like that came out of your fingers as well. What I actually typed was non-citizens.

Which would you rather have? A squad of honest pedophiles that you know exactly who and where they are, or a group doing their level best to hide what they are and perhaps infiltrate our schools and churches? You're the type of moron that would have voted for prohibition, or sold popcorn at a witch burning. In order to control a thing you must first find a thing. Society's reaction to pedophilia, becomes moot if you've driven all the pedophiles into hiding. Why has it not occurred to any of you froth mouths that the FBI is probably monitoring that page?

Can you grasp the concept that you may in fact be helping the people you claim to hate?

As to children being property, I ask what jurisdiction would you like? Or is federal custody law good enough? Children have almost no rights. How many of them would continue to risk their lives in school if it were not a law? You're simply ignorant of the realities of life in America. And you're so addle-minded that you've forgotten what it was like to be a child. Fortunately for them some of us remember all too well.

Beyond all that is my core point, Free Speech means Free, period the end. You don't get to shut people up just because you find their opinion detestable. And conversely, they don't get to shut you up. That's how that is supposed to work.

Go watch demolition man to see the end of that slippery slope. If you start controlling speech pretty soon everything's illegal. Your ignorant lynch mob version of democracy makes my skin crawl.

Self Defense: Agent-fisher

Agent-fisher: How wrong was I, huh? He also likes using private PMs without permission. http://innomen.blogspot.com/2008/03/from-pedophilia-to-free-speech-in-5.html And a screencap proving it: http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/agent_fisher/Exibit_A.jpg.

I don't need your permission to post my own words. You have no right to censor me, but given how our argument started I don't expect you to understand that. Others will.

Are you so ashamed of your own position? I'm rather proud of mine. Because I have confidence in its validity. If you have the desire to hide yours perhaps you should think about what that means. And don't play the martyr, this whole thing started with you triumphantly announcing your fascist hatred of free speech.

What is that screen cap supposed to prove?

You waived your right to protected conversation when you clicked send. I am not your priest, I am not your lawyer. If you don't like that, you have the right to remain silent.

Wake up kid, this is called the Internet.

Self Defense: Agent-fisher

Agent-fisher: How wrong was I, huh? He also likes using private PMs without permission. http://innomen.blogspot.com/2008/03/from-pedophilia-to-free-speech-in-5.html And a screencap proving it: http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/agent_fisher/Exibit_A.jpg.

I don't need your permission to post my own words. You have no right to censor me, but given how our argument started I don't expect you to understand that. Others will.

Are you so ashamed of your own position? I'm rather proud of mine. Because I have confidence in its validity. If you have the desire to hide yours perhaps you should think about what that means. And don't play the martyr, this whole thing started with you triumphantly announcing your fascist hatred of free speech.

What is that screen cap supposed to prove?

You waived your right to protected conversation when you clicked send. I am not your priest, I am not your lawyer. If you don't like that, you have the right to remain silent.

Wake up kid, this is called the Internet.

Self Defense: Geckotape

Geckotape: You know, two strikes. Saying pedophilia is the least of children's concerns, as compared to exploitation in the media? You know what, fuck you. Fuck you fuck you fuck you. Taking sex from a child destroys their mind, the body to follow. There is no greater harm you could do to a person. Fuck you. And fuck you.

Does it bother you that you've completely misunderstood what I said? Or are you happy to label me a monster without regard to the veracity of that claim? I think I already know the answer.

What I said was that the web page is the least of children's problems. Not rape. And as to no greater harm, I think you're over stating the matter. If forced to choose would you really pick death for your own child rather than statutory rape? If so I think that indicates an atrocious level of morbid preoccupation with sex.

I personally would rather be raped by deception and live to potentially seek vengeance than be murdered.